If you compare these two computers, and match them up with roughly the same specifications, the gazelle performance is actually MORE expensive than the macbook.
This particularly amazes me, because apple is known for selling quot;high qualityquot; products for much more than they're worth, and yet here it is cheaper than a computer with a free operating system.
I do understand that small vendors can't compete with the crazy low deals that huge companies like dell and hp have on the computers, because of all the software that companies put on their systems make the price lower...
But not being able to compete with apple on pricing? C'mon! As far as I know, neither system 76 nor apple sell their computers with trial programs and the like.
Try it yourself (try to customize the gazelle to the same specs as the macbook):
Gazelle performance: from : localhost/system76.com/product_info.php...roducts_id/192
Macbook: from : localhost/store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...acbook/macbook
To note: I chose the gazelle performance because it is the only one with a built-in camera option. As the macbook naturally has a built-in camera, I thought this was the correct course to take.
Also to note: This post is just kinda a heads up type thing...take it as a news item.
i.e. don't start a flame war.
Before anyone says something really stupid: notice that you need to customize the System76 computer before you can compare.
Originally Posted by RhoxBefore anyone says something really stupid: notice that you need to customize the System76 computer before you can compare.
Ah yes, thanks for noting that, I'll add it at the top.
The reason is actually quite simple: System76 is small, while Apple is large.
Volume drives down prices... a LOT!
Originally Posted by MathiasdmThe reason is actually quite simple: System76 is small, while Apple is large.
Volume drives down prices... a LOT!
The Macbook is smaller and weights less. The battery of the Macbook is said to work twice as long as well. So, I don't get it either.
I'm not talking about the size of the computer, I'm talking about the size of the companies
Originally Posted by MathiasdmI'm not talking about the size of the computer, I'm talking about the size of the companies
Ah, well, I could have figured.. LOL
Shortly after being added to our product line, our 17quot; laptop became our biggest seller. Now we're ready to expand to a 14quot; model. It will be finalized in the next week or two. Here's a preview of one possible configuration, similar to the machines listed above:
Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz)
2 GB ram (DDR2-667)
160 GB Hard Drive (5400 rpm)
14quot; LCD (1440x900)
Nvidia GeForce Go 7300 with 128MB ram
CD-RW / DVD-RW
$1336
What do you think?
Originally Posted by RhoxBefore anyone says something really stupid: notice that you need to customize the System76 computer before you can compare.
Would it be considered really stupid to note that the System 76 computer offers the option to customize? The MacBook Pro is competitive price-wise if its capabilities provide a precise fit to your needs. However, if you in some areas can get by with less or in others require more then you quickly run into a situation where you are paying for functionality you do not want.
For example, 'tis my understanding that the Intel Core2 Duo processor in the MacBook Pro is soldered directly to the PCB. And while it is indeed currently a top-of-line Intel offering and Apple is probably able to pass on a volume discount of $50-100 by not offering alternatives, some more conscientious buyers might prefer the option of one of the Intel models offering different capabilities... perhaps applying the $500 saved towards enhancements that are more beneficial to their usage demands (more memory, faster or larger harddrive, better peripherals). A wise buyer might consider that a year or two from now, they could pick up a Merom processor for much less than its current $700 price tag; or perhaps upgrade to whatever leading-edge processor Intel offers at that time. I would presume that, unlike the MacBook Pro, the System 76 does offer this option of upgrading your computer in a manner that takes advantage of market trends.
There is a similar lack of choice provided for other components in Apple's offerings; and though Apple may be competitive when compared with matching systems of other providers, the risk remains that the buyer will be forced to purchase functionality he neither wants nor needs.
Originally Posted by ubuntuman001If you compare these two computers, and match them up with roughly the same specifications, the gazelle performance is actually MORE expensive than the macbook.
This particularly amazes me, because apple is known for selling quot;high qualityquot; products for much more than they're worth, and yet here it is cheaper than a computer with a free operating system.
I do understand that small vendors can't compete with the crazy low deals that huge companies like dell and hp have on the computers, because of all the software that companies put on their systems make the price lower...
But not being able to compete with apple on pricing? C'mon! As far as I know, neither system 76 nor apple sell their computers with trial programs and the like.
Try it yourself (try to customize the gazelle to the same specs as the macbook):
Gazelle performance: from : localhost/system76.com/product_info.php...roducts_id/192
Macbook: from : localhost/store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...acbook/macbook
To note: I chose the gazelle performance because it is the only one with a built-in camera option. As the macbook naturally has a built-in camera, I thought this was the correct course to take.
Also to note: This post is just kinda a heads up type thing...take it as a news item.
i.e. don't start a flame war.
Actually, sir, MacBook pricing is very competitive with your typical brands... a comparable laptop to what you get instead of Apple's MackBook would be roughly the same price or MORE. This is true with their desktop systems too... find a system with the exact same specs for a lesser price- you won't. |
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